Anyone who has ran around in the KJVO circles will know that the KJVO-ers have a lot of reasons why they believe that all the new translations are evil. Here we would like to address just one of those reasons. According to the KJVO movement, the NIV has purposefully schemed to remove the name of Jesus. But the evidence doesn’t really add up. In fact, the evidence is pointing quite to the opposite conclusion.
Did the new Bible versions remove the name of Jesus from the text?
Here are some online sources to demonstrate that such absurd claims are indeed being made. I am sure some google-ing could produce a dozen more.
christianitybeliefs.org
av1611.org
lovethetruth.com
As quoted directly from one such KJVO website…
The King James Bible is INSPIRED and PRESERVED. Those ministers and professed Christians who claim that the Bible is not worth fighting over do not love the Lord Jesus Christ. The King James Bible faithfully uplifts the precious name of Jesus. In the Godless and corrupt New International Version [NIV] of the Bible, the name above every other name, Jesus, is removed in 38 places. They hate Jesus. There were homosexuals on the translating committee of the NIV Bible. Why would any pastor fail to see the evils of the NIV? Not surprisingly, the word “sodomite” was completely removed from the NIV. They’re suppressing the truth! Romans 1:25 in the King James Bible warned that men would change the truth of God into a lie. Beware of all modern Bibles. (Source)
The Truth of the Matter (Charts Source)
Table is the number of times the KJV has Jesus and the NIV has something else.
| Scripture Reference | KJV | NIV |
| Matt 9:28 Matt 13:36 Matt 17:20 Matt 17:22 Matt 18:2 Matt 24:2 Mark 5:13 Mark 7:27 Mark 11:14 Mark 14:18 Luke 7:22 John 4:16 John 4:46 John 8:20 John 9:1 John 11:14 John 11:39 John 20:15 John 21:5 |
Jesus | he |
| 2 Cor 4:11 | Jesus | his |
| Matt 8:29 | Jesus, thou Son of God | Son of God |
| Matt 16:20 | Jesus the Christ | the Christ |
| Romans 15:8 2 Cor 4:6 2 Cor 5:18 |
Jesus Christ | Christ |
| Col 1:28 Phile 1:6 1 Pet 5:10 1 Pet 5:14 |
Christ Jesus | Christ |
| Luke 7:19 Luke 10:39 Luke 10:41 |
Jesus | the Lord |
| Acts 19:10 1 Cor 5:5 |
Lord Jesus | Lord |
| Rom 16:18 | Lord Jesus Christ | Lord Christ |
| 1 Cor 16:22 2 Tim 4:22 |
Lord Jesus Christ | Lord |
| John 19:38 | the body of Jesus | the body |
| Acts 3:26 | Son Jesus | servant |
| Rom 1:3 | Son Jesus Christ | Son |
| Acts 7:45 Heb 4:8 (What’s the difference?) |
Jesus | Joshua |
| Acts 8:37 Romans 16:24 Col 1:2 |
Jesus | [not present, but it is in the footnote] |
| John 21:21 Acts 9:29 Gal 6:15, Eph 3:9 Eph 3:14 |
Jesus | [not present] |
Such charts are used by KJV-only supporters to “alarm” you that Satan has indeed worked to remove the name of Jesus. Below is the chart inverted.
Places where the NIV says Jesus and the KJV says something else.
| Scripture Reference(s) | KJV | NIV |
| Matt 4:4 Matt 4:19 Matt 4:21, Matt 8:24 Matt 9:1 Matt 11:20 Matt 12:22 Matt 12:46 Matt 13:24 Matt 15:3 Matt 15:10 Matt 15:23 Matt 15:39 Matt 16:4 Matt 16:23 Matt 19:8 Matt 19:11 Matt 19:17 Matt 20:23 Matt 21:10 Matt 21:23 Matt 22:34 Matt 24:3 Matt 26:20, Matt 26:23 Matt 26:25 Matt 27:3 Matt 27:14 Mark 1:10 Mark 1:16 Mark 1:21 Mark 1:35 Mark 1:38 Mark 1:43 Mark 2:4 Mark 2:13 Mark 2:14 Mark 2:23 Mark 3:3 Mark 3:4 Mark 3:13 Mark 3:23 Mark 4:1 Mark 4:9 Mark 4:13 Mark 4:33 Mark 4:28 Mark 5:2 Mark 5:8 Mark 5:9 Mark 5:18 Mark 5:32 Mark 5:35 Mark 5:38 Mark 6:1 Mark 6:6 Mark 6:39 Mark 6:45 Mark 7:14 Mark 7:24 Mark 7:31 Mark 7:33 Mark 7:36 Mark 8:5 Mark 8:15 Mark 8:23 Mark 8:25 Mark 8:26 Mark 8:30 Mark 8:33 Mark 9:9 Mark 9:12 Mark 9:19 Mark 9:21 Mark 9:28 Mark 9:30 Mark 9:35 Mark 10:1 Mark 10:17 Mark 10:46 Mark 11:1 Mark 11:12 Mark 11:27 Mark 12:15 Mark 12:28 Mark 12:38 Mark 12:43 Mark 13:3 Mark 14:16 Mark 14:17 Mark 14:32 Mark 14:61 Mark 15:2 Mark 15:44 Mark 16:11 Mark 16:12 Mark 16:14 Luke 4:23 Luke 4:38 Luke 4:42 Luke 5:12 Luke 5:13 Luke 5:14 Luke 5:16 Luke 5:20 Luke 5:27 (twice) Luke 5:34 Luke 6:1 Luke 6:5 Luke 6:8 Luke 6:12 Luke 7:1 Luke 7:11 Luke 7:15 Luke 7:21 Luke 7:24 Luke 7:43 Luke 7:48 Luke 7:50 Luke 8:1 Luke 8:22 Luke 8:27 Luke 8:29 Luke 8:42 Luke 8:49 Luke 8:52 Luke 8:55 Luke 9:1 Luke 9:18 Luke 9:21 Luke 9:28 Luke 9:51 Luke 9:55 Luke 10:28 Luke 11:1 Luke 11:14 Luke 11:17 Luke 11:27 Luke 11:29 Luke 11:37 Luke 11:38 Luke 11:46 Luke 11:53 Luke 12:1 Luke 12:14 Luke 12:22 Luke 13:10 Luke 13:18 Luke 13:22 Luke 14:1 Luke 14:12 Luke 14:16 Luke 15:3 Luke 15:11 Luke 16:1 Luke 17:1 Luke 17:11 Luke 17:20 Luke 18:1 Luke 18:9 Luke 18:27 Luke 18:29 Luke 18:31 Luke 18:35 Luke 19:4, Luke 19:28 Luke 20:17 Luke 20:41 Luke 20:45 Luke 21:1 Luke 21:5 Luke 21:37 Luke 22:8 Luke 22:13 Luke 22:14 Luke 22:25 Luke 22:34 Luke 22:35 Luke 22:39 Luke 22:67 Luke 23:3 Luke 23:7 Luke 23:9 Luke 24:28 Luke 24:35 John 9:22 John 11:43 John 11:57 John 12:9 John 12:37 John 13:28 John 18:6 John 19:41 John 20:9 John 21:15 John 21:16 (twice) John 21:17 John 21:19 Acts 1:22 Acts 9:20 Hebrews 2:11 Hebrews 7:24 Hebrews 8:6 1 John 2:6 1 John 3:16 |
he | Jesus |
| Matt 8:31 Matt 9:32 Matt 12:10 Matt 12:14 Matt 14:35 Matt 16:1 Matt 17:3 Matt 17:14 Matt 18:21 Matt 19:13 Matt 19:16 Matt 20:20 Matt 21:7 Matt 26:62 Matt 27:18 Matt 27:34 Matt 27:48 Mark 1:30 Mark 1:32 Mark 1:34 Mark 2:4 Mark 2:18 Mark 3:2 Mark 3:6 Mark 5:10 Mark 5:12 Mark 5:17 Mark 5:22 Mark 6:54 Mark 7:1 Mark 7:5 Mark 7:26 Mark 8:11 Mark 8:22 Mark 9:15 Mark 9:20 Mark 10:10 Mark 10:13 Mark 11:21 Mark 12:13 Mark 14:1 Mark 14:10 Mark 14:45 Mark 14:46 Mark 14:51 Mark 15:10 Mark 15:16 Mark 15:22 Mark 15:36 Mark 15:39 Luke 4:38 Luke 4:40 Luke 5:1 Luke 5:18 Luke 5:29 Luke 6:7 Luke 7:17 Luke 7:20 Luke 7:36 Luke 8:4 Luke 8:32 Luke 8:37 Luke 9:10 Luke 10:25 Luke 13:1 Luke 13:31 Luke 14:15 Luke 14:25 Luke 16:14 Luke 18:15 Luke 18:43 Luke 19:39 Luke 20:27 Luke 22:2 Luke 22:4 Luke 22:6 Luke 22:66 Luke 23:3 Luke 23:55 John 1:40 John 7:43 John 8:4 John 10:42 John 11:3 John 13:2 John 19:12 John 19:32 Acts 3:16 Acts 13:27 Hebrews 13:15 |
him | Jesus |
| Luke 20:20 Acts 3:16 Acts 13:24 |
his | Jesus |
| Matt 17:24 Matt 20:29 Luke 10:38 |
they | Jesus and his disciples |
| 2 Cor 11:4 | whom | Jesus |
| Acts 10:48 | the Lord | Jesus Christ |
| Acts 18:25 | the Lord | Jesus |
| Mark 16:19 2 Thess 2:8 |
Lord | Lord Jesus |
| Acts 16:7 | Spirit | Spirit of Jesus |
| Acts 24:24 Romans 8:34 1 Cor 4:17 Gal 5:24 Eph 3:6 Col 4:12 |
Christ | Christ Jesus |
| Acts 9:22 | this | Jesus |
| Acts 13:38 Heb 3:3 |
this man | Jesus |
| Mark 3:20 Mark 7:19 Luke 9:31 John 10:40 |
[not present] | Jesus |
| Romans 1:4 | [not present] | Jesus Christ our Lord |
| Jude 1:25 | [not present] | through Jesus Christ our Lord |
If you are KJVO you can refute this information below.
Mat 8:31 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Mat 9:32 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Mat 12:10 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Matt 12:14 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Matt 14:35 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Matt 16:1 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Matt 17:3 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Matt 17:14 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Matt 18:21 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Matt 19:13 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Matt 19:16 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Matt 20:20 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Matt 21:7 NIV added in the name Jesus to the text
Matt 26:62 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Matt 27:18 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Matt 27:34 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Matt 27:48 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Mark 1:30 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Mark 1:32 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Mark 1:34 NIV added Jesus’s name to the text
Mark 2:4 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Mark 2:18 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Mark 3:2 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Mark 3:6 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Mark 5:10 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Mark 5:12 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Mark 5:17 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Mark 5:22 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Mark 6:54 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Luke 4:38 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…and they added Jesus and additional time
John 1:40 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Acts 3:16 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
Acts 13:27 NIV translated hoytos (which means this, these) to Jesus…
Hebrews 13:15 NIV translated autos (which means himself, he) to Jesus…
I went through about half the list and caught the pattern. Feel free to check the remaining ones which the NIV also lied on
The transliteration of Jesus is Iesous not autos
Thank you for pointing out that the NIV took liberty in changing the text
Proverbs 30:5-6 (KJV) Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Great work long live the nameJESUS IS SUPREME.
Adding the name Jesus to the pronoun he is completely unnecessary. The NIV has strategically removed the name Jesus when associated with Lord and Christ. Who is the Lord? Who is the Christ? Satan’s goal from the beginning of time had been to pervert the words of God. We don’t need not one more marketed version advertised to us. Let’s ignore the stark reality that 10 to 15 percent by copyright MUST be changed for someone to profit from their own new version. No room for error? Fearing God’s word is an afterthought obviously. Revelations 22 warns everyone to not even think about taking a single word away or adding a single word or else they will recieve of the plagues written in the book and worse yet from entering into heaven at all!! Holy Jesus but who the heck cares?! People who are pompous enough to market their own latest greatest version could care less for the omnipotence of its author and his stark warning. Most people don’t even take the Bible as literal. People are messing with fire taking ENTIRE verses out of God’s holy Word. ?
1) “The NIV has strategically removed the name Jesus when associated with Lord and Christ”
Not remotely true as I demonstrated in the article. If anyone is removing the name of Jesus it’s the KJV. But in reality nobody is doing any such thing. The difference between “He” and “Jesus” is because we have multiple manuscripts and critical Greek editions to work from and they don’t all agree. Nevertheless, it’s a silly talking point.
2) “Satan’s goal from the beginning of time had been to pervert the words of God.”
Eh…. sure I guess. It’s not really in the Bible but one would assume Satan would take pleasure in such a thing.
3) “We don’t need not one more marketed version advertised to us.”
I disagree. As we discover more and more manuscripts like those found at the Dead sea (and others) our understanding of the biblical texts change. Therefore it is important that new editions are published to reflect the changes in translation. Do we need so many versions? Probably not. But as long as people keep buying them, people will keep making them.
4) “Let’s ignore the stark reality that 10 to 15 percent by copyright MUST be changed for someone to profit from their own new version. No room for error?”
This is a lie. I don’t know where you heard this from but it is patently false.
5) “Revelations 22 warns everyone to not even think about taking a single word away or adding a single word or else they will recieve of the plagues written in the book and worse yet from entering into heaven at all!!”
The Bible didn’t exist at the time John wrote those words. More importantly, he said “this scroll” referring to the one he had written, not to the Bible. Go back and read Rev 22. It’s quite clear.
6) “People who are pompous enough to market their own latest greatest version could care less for the omnipotence of its author and his stark warning.”
I personally know many Bible translators that worked on the NLT, CEB, NIV 2011, and some others, and I can tell you that they are not pompous at all and they are true believers. They do translation work because trying to make the best translation is always beneficial task.
7) “Most people don’t even take the Bible as literal.”
Not sure where you got this information from. Most people take the Bible literal with the exception of Genesis 1-11 which is clearly mythology.
8) “People are messing with fire taking ENTIRE verses out of God’s holy Word.”
Except that those verses were never in there to begin with and were erroneously added many centuries after the originals were made.
I pray JESUS shows you how wrong your point of view is so you are capable of following in the right of the only authorized, most heavily studied and advised, most directly written to the original Hebrew Scriptures KJV Bible. Not corrupted by those copying and twisting Gods pure and holy words. That Jesus allows you to see the real truth of the true Bible. Coming to you in a dream or showing himself to you directly. In Jesus name I pray. Amen.
The NIV removes approximately 66,000 different things – INCLUDING the Holy Name of Jesus. That is akin to ripping a THIRD of God’s Words – out of the book. Why not try to track down the word “sodomite” in the NIV. You can’t. Because they’ve removed that, as well.
No they didn’t. Please read the post. The KJV removed Jesus’ name far more than the NIV. The use of Jesus’ name varied greatly in the ancient manuscripts because sometimes the pronoun “he” or “him” was used. In the KJV greek manuscripts the pronoun occurs at a far greater rate than the actual name which is why the NIV uses Jesus’ name way more than the KJV does. Funny how we don’t see conspiracy theorists calling the KJV evil for not using the name of Jesus as much.
They don’t “remove” anything else for that matter. The KJV is a translation of certain manuscripts. Modern translators prefer better manuscripts that were not available in the 17th century.
Why should anyone care if the word sodomite was changed to homosexual in the NIV? Please tell me how Sodomite is more understandable as a description than homosexual.
By your logic then we should be pronouncing Jesus as Yeshua. It’s not whether we use Yahweh or Jehovah, it’s that we use the Father’s name. The first thing Jesus taught us to pray for in the Lord’s prayer was “Our father who art in heaven, hallowed by thy name”. Yet most people don’t use it at all. I’m just saying it surprises me that people are uptight about changing reference to Jesus in the Bible to He or Lord, but not the Father’s name Jehovah.
That’s a good point. I believe the tradition was just adopted by Jewish scribes in the early medieval period.
On the difference between Jesus and Yeshua, I think it depends on the practice of the first century Christians and Jews. They typically spoke Greek. Some Jews spoke Aramaic but not most. Other still learned traditional Hebrew but usually just rabbis, scribes, and such. Did Jesus pronounce his is name as a Greek speaker or an Aramaic speaker? I’m not sure.
I think it’s hilarious that people are so up in arms about Jesus name being removed from the Bible, yet they have no issues with the Father’s name, Jehovah, being removed, This is so, even though His name appears over 7,000 times in the original texts. More than any other name including Jesus.
Ehhhh, I think you might be missing some history about the Hebrew Bible here. Hebrew doesn’t actually have a J or a J sound. God’s name reads YHWH in Hebrew and should be pronounced Yahweh. Jehovah was an old transition of the Tetragrammaton (YHWH+Adonai) that was currently being read in Latin. So Jehovah was a translation from Latin into English of a made up title for God that was used by scribes to avoid mistakenly writing God’s name incorrectly. It was a 6th century invention. But this is also why our old testament reads LORD in all caps. The ALL caps LORD is a modern indicator that the word in the original text was YHWH in Hebrew or the Tetragrammaton in Latin.
I personally don’t care for the use of this device. However, I don’t think many KJV readers would either if they actually knew what it was.