{"id":5981,"date":"2016-04-24T21:51:07","date_gmt":"2016-04-25T01:51:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/Blog-archive\/?p=5981"},"modified":"2016-05-03T16:24:56","modified_gmt":"2016-05-03T20:24:56","slug":"is-joseph-a-type-for-jesus-or-for-joseph","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/Blog-archive\/2016\/04\/24\/is-joseph-a-type-for-jesus-or-for-joseph\/","title":{"rendered":"Is Joseph A Type For Jesus Or For Joseph?"},"content":{"rendered":"<hr \/>\n<p>Somewhere around a million websites, books, and articles, have discussed the parallels between Joseph in the book of Genesis and Jesus. However, modern scholarship (though scant) has suggested that Joseph might actually have a literary link more with the father of Jesus than with Jesus. I will flesh this out below.<\/p>\n<h2>Source of this Joseph view point<\/h2>\n<p>One of the main sources for this idea is a liberal stream of theology from Europe. One in which most people don&#8217;t really hear about since it&#8217;s theology isn&#8217;t popular in the USA&#8230;. yet. A scholar named <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Michael_Goulder\">Michael Goulder<\/a>\u00a0and then a\u00a0more recent scholar, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/John_Shelby_Spong\">John Shelby Spong<\/a>\u00a0have championed this idea. Goulder and Spong both heavily emphasize reading the gospels as Jewish\/Christian liturgical texts like the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Midrash\">Midrash<\/a>, not as actual history. While I don&#8217;t really want to address this topic today it needs to at least be mentioned so that the reader, has a basic framework for understanding the depth of the Joseph issue.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_5983\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5983\" style=\"width: 190px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0062362305\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0062362305&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=duofthbi-20&amp;linkId=O7JSXSLVLPR4DYQU\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5983\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-5983 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/571d61fe7e426-0-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"Biblical Literalism: A Gentile Heresy by John Shelby Spong\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/571d61fe7e426-0-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/571d61fe7e426-0-250x375.jpg 250w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/571d61fe7e426-0-300x450.jpg 300w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/571d61fe7e426-0.jpg 333w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-5983\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Biblical Literalism: A Gentile Heresy by John Shelby Spong<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0062362305\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0062362305&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=duofthbi-20&amp;linkId=O7JSXSLVLPR4DYQU\">Spong argues in his most recent book, &#8220;Biblical Literalism: A gentile Heresy,<\/a>&#8221; that much of what we read in Matthew and Luke are additions to Mark but not historical additions. In fact, he really doesn&#8217;t believe that Mark is factual either. But Matthew specifically was designed as a liturgical addition to Mark and quite a bit of it is written to clarify some things in Mark.<\/p>\n<p>As most Bible students already know, Mark is universally known to have been the first gospel. It&#8217;s also the shortest and is more chronological than the others. Of the 4 gospels Mark is also believed to be the most accurate, though the accuracy varies depending on who you ask. The problem with Mark, according to Spong, is that it&#8217;s too short. It&#8217;s formed around the Jewish calendar and that makes it fit well with the liturgy of the synagogues in the first century. But, it&#8217;s length was not enough to cover the entire year worth of synagogue readings. Matthew&#8217;s addition to Mark forms a liturgical length that fills and entire year and reorders\/adds some of the stories in Mark.<\/p>\n<p>One of the additions to Mark is that of the character Joseph. Wait just a second and think about that. Do you remember any mention of Joseph in the gospel of Mark? No you don&#8217;t. He isn&#8217;t there. Even in Jesus&#8217; home town he is referred to as the son of Mary, not Joseph. It&#8217;s possible that many Christians were not comfortable with Jesus and Mary but not having any mention of a father. Was Jesus known as illegitimate? Possibly. I am not going to argue this point today. Just laying the groundwork.<\/p>\n<p>As the argument concludes, Joseph was added to Matthew (and Luke) in order to address the father issue. If you were going to &#8220;write in&#8221; a character to fill the role of Jesus&#8217; father what would you want him to be like? That is where the fun begins. The comparison and allusions between Joseph in Genesis and Joseph, Jesus&#8217; father, is interesting.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h2>Comparison of the two Josephs<\/h2>\n<p>I have used some of the ideas from John Spong and a few of my own to create this brief chart showing the comparisons. If you can think of anymore please let me know so I can update.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_6008\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6008\" style=\"width: 840px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/Joseph-Comparison-Chart.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-6008\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-6008\" src=\"http:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/Joseph-Comparison-Chart.jpg\" alt=\"Joseph Comparison Chart\" width=\"850\" height=\"170\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/Joseph-Comparison-Chart.jpg 850w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/Joseph-Comparison-Chart-300x60.jpg 300w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/Joseph-Comparison-Chart-768x154.jpg 768w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/Joseph-Comparison-Chart-250x50.jpg 250w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-6008\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joseph Comparison Chart<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I am not an advocate of Spong by any means but I find him to be very enlightening and I love a voice that differs from the mainstream. On this matter I thing it&#8217;s possible that he is onto something. If (and that is a big IF) Joseph is a product of fiction then I think that he makes a lot of sense as an allusion to the other Joseph and as Jesus&#8217; father.<\/p>\n<p>However, there could have easily been a dozen other candidates that could fill the literary role. Why not Jacob, who also spoke to God through dreams? He was also a sign of the covenant. There are many people like Joseph or Abraham that could have filled role of Jesus&#8217; made-up father.<\/p>\n<p>Having only, made it about 30% through this book today I will reserve my judgement on this issue but please feel free to put your comments below on the matter.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Somewhere around a million websites, books, and articles, have discussed the parallels between Joseph in the book of Genesis and Jesus. However, modern scholarship (though scant) has suggested that Joseph might actually have a literary link more with the father of Jesus than with Jesus. I will flesh this out below. 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