{"id":2689,"date":"2015-10-23T15:34:37","date_gmt":"2015-10-23T19:34:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/Blog-archive\/?p=2689"},"modified":"2015-12-11T13:47:36","modified_gmt":"2015-12-11T18:47:36","slug":"jesus-yeshua-or-iesous","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/Blog-archive\/2015\/10\/23\/jesus-yeshua-or-iesous\/","title":{"rendered":"Jesus, Yeshua, or Iesous?"},"content":{"rendered":"<hr \/>\n<p>Until this week I had no idea that this was a controversial issue. However, with the rise of churches trying to get in touch with the Hebrew roots of Christianity it is becoming more and more popular to hear people pronounce the Jesus in a Hebrew\/Aramaic form. Some people (mostly KJVO types) believe that this is from the devil. Thus, here is my analysis of the whole issue.<\/p>\n<p>(If I am missing something please let me know in the comments!)<\/p>\n<p>Here are the things that need discussed. <strong>1)<\/strong> Language of the NT, <strong>2)<\/strong> Language of the Hebrew people (Jesus was Hebrew), and <strong>3)<\/strong> how languages are transliterated.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><a href=\"http:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/septuagint.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-2697\" src=\"http:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/septuagint-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"septuagint\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/septuagint-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/septuagint-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/septuagint-80x80.jpg 80w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/septuagint-198x198.jpg 198w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">1. Greek: the language of the New Testament<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>I realize that not everyone knows that the New Testament (NT) was written in Greek but it should be used as our starting point. Not only was the NT written in Greek but nearly ALL of the Old Testament (OT) quotations in the NT were taken from a Greek copy of the OT, called the Septuagint. In Bible scholar land its known as the LXX.<\/p>\n<p>To be clear on this issue, Greek was the language of the land. It was the language of the common people. It was likely the language that Jesus predominantly spoke with his followers. I say that because the Bible specifically states when Jesus spoke in something other than Greek. (Example: John 20:16) So, it stands to reason that Jesus probably spent most of his time speaking Greek like the rest of the common people.<\/p>\n<p>Even though Greek was so common that Paul quotes almost exclusively from the Greek OT, both Paul and Jesus could both speak multiple other languages. Jesus and Paul both spoke Hebrew and we know this from the NT itself because they read from the Hebrew scrolls in the synagogues. We k now that Jesus and Paul could communicate with the Romans so perhaps they even knew Latin (that I am less sure on).<\/p>\n<p>Why does any of this matter? Because the Greek name of Jesus was not Jesus&#8230;..it was Iesous (<span lang=\"el\">\u0399\u03b7\u03c3\u03bf\u03cd\u03c2<\/span>). This in English would be\u00a0<em>ee-ay-sooce&#8217;\u00a0<\/em>according to the Strong&#8217;s Concordance. I personally don&#8217;t use the Strong&#8217;s much but it&#8217;s helpful for pronunciation at times and it&#8217;s easily accessible on any device. The question is, then, how would have Jesus pronounced it? Would it be in Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek? (Certainly not English as Jesus)<\/p>\n<p>To answer that let us look to our next major point.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2693\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2693\" style=\"width: 140px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Language-transforming-over-time.gif\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-2693\" src=\"http:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Language-transforming-over-time-150x150.gif\" alt=\"Language transforming over time\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Language-transforming-over-time-150x150.gif 150w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Language-transforming-over-time-300x300.gif 300w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Language-transforming-over-time-80x80.gif 80w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Language-transforming-over-time-198x198.gif 198w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2693\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Semetic Language transforming over time<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h3><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">2. The language of the Hebrew or Jewish people<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>We know that Jesus and most of Judea were Jewish. The Jews descended from the Hebrew tribe of Judah (and the remnant of Israel to the north). So, all the Jews were Hebrew.<\/p>\n<p>This does not mean that they all spoke Hebrew at the time of Jesus and the gospels. But the NT does state on many occasions common Jews engaging in the Hebrew language. (Luke 4:16-20, Mark 7:34, Matt.5:26; Mark 14:30)<\/p>\n<p>Yet we also see much of the Aramaic in the OT and NT (Matthew 27:46; Mark 15:34, Mark 5:41) In addition, many of our oldest OT manuscripts are littered with Aramaic. (Ezra 4:8-6:18; 7:12-26; Daniel 2:4-7:28; Jeremiah 10:11)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Why do the Jews speak both Hebrew and Aramaic?<\/strong><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2692\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2692\" style=\"width: 140px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Kandahar-bil.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-2692 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Kandahar-bil-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Kandahar-bil\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Kandahar-bil-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Kandahar-bil-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Kandahar-bil-80x80.jpg 80w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Kandahar-bil-198x198.jpg 198w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2692\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bilingual inscription of King Ashoka<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This is because the Jews were once taken captive by and lived with Aramaic speaking peoples for many generations. At one point Aramaic was the predominant language of the ANE. The last national super power to be in place before the Greek were the Persians and those who spoke Aramaic. This has been true for all of time. The dominant powers tend to control the language.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, the Greeks and the Aramaic speaking people also had a clash of language. Many texts had to be translated once the Greeks took over. Thus, the Jews is Jesus&#8217; day had to know multiple languages and often there were blurred lines where one stopped and another started.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2695\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2695\" style=\"width: 290px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/how-we-got-jesus.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-2695 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/how-we-got-jesus-300x227.jpg\" alt=\"how we got jesus from joshua\" width=\"300\" height=\"227\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/how-we-got-jesus-300x227.jpg 300w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/how-we-got-jesus-250x189.jpg 250w, https:\/\/dustoffthebible.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/how-we-got-jesus.jpg 459w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2695\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">How we got Jesus from Joshua<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h3><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">3. How languages are transliterated<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Not every language has a 1 to 1 comparison in its alphabet. Therefor, not every word in every langauge is going to have a direct transliteration. And just to make this clear up front, a transliteration is not the same as a translation.<\/p>\n<p>A translation is when two languages both posses a word with the same meaning but different word. Just like how in English &#8220;road&#8221; is road or a path and in Spanish a path is &#8220;camino&#8221;. If Spanish did not have an equivalent word to road they could choose to adopt the English word and then they would transliterate it into Spanish by spelling it out phonetically.<\/p>\n<p>We can observe this happening in our Greek NT when the name Joshua is transliterated from Hebrew to Greek (Luke 3:29, Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8). Likewise, the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Septuagint\" rel=\"nofollow\">Septuagint<\/a> (the Greek translation of the Old Testament) uses \u1f38\u03b7\u03c3\u03bf\u1fe6s for the name of Joshua.<\/p>\n<p>So, what does this mean for Jesus? The original name for Jesus was likely Yeshua (\u05d9\u05e9\u05d5\u05e2, with vowel pointing \u05d9\u05b5\u05e9\u05c1\u05d5\u05bc\u05e2\u05b7 \u2013 y\u0113\u0161\u016b\u0103&#8217; in Hebrew). I say this because He was Jewish and both his parents were Jewish. Even though they adopted multiple languages it does not mean that they would naturally adopt another culture&#8217;s names. This was not a Jewish thing to do.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, in Matthew 1:21 the angel said to Joseph:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.&#8221; (Matthew 1:21 NIV)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What this tells me is that whatever name the angel had in mind, its root definition would have to do with saving or delivering. The name Joshua\u00a0is a shortened form of\u00a0\u05d9\u05b0\u05d4\u05d5\u05b9\u05e9\u05bb\u05c1\u05e2\u05b7 (Yehoshu&#8217;a) meaning\u00a0&#8220;YAHWEH is salvation.&#8221; But would not the name Iesous also carry the same meaning since the culture had already adopted it to be the equivalent of\u00a0Yehoshu&#8217;a? I believe so. I think using the name Iesous in the first century would have been far more common among the common people. Though, more so for the gentiles than the Jews.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<hr \/>\n<h3>Conclusion<\/h3>\n<p>What should we call him today? I am not sure it matters if you use Jesus or Joshua or Yeshua or Yehoshua. Everyone speaks a different language so I would suggest that they speak the name of our Lord in what ever it translates into in your particular language.<\/p>\n<p>If you are really bent on historicity and accuracy I would go with Yeshua or Iesous.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\">For further reading on this subject you can visit these links.<\/h4>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/2010\/07\/examining-the-biblical-truth-that-jesus-spoke-hebrew.html\">http:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/2010\/07\/examining-the-biblical-truth-that-jesus-spoke-hebrew.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markdroberts\/series\/what-language-did-jesus-speak-why-does-it-matter\/\">http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markdroberts\/series\/what-language-did-jesus-speak-why-does-it-matter\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hebrew4christians.com\/Articles\/Jesus_Hebrew\/jesus_hebrew.html\">http:\/\/www.hebrew4christians.com\/Articles\/Jesus_Hebrew\/jesus_hebrew.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ntgreek.org\/answers\/nt_written_in_greek.htm\">http:\/\/www.ntgreek.org\/answers\/nt_written_in_greek.htm<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/bible-truths.com\/enigmaOfGod.htm\">http:\/\/bible-truths.com\/enigmaOfGod.htm<\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Until this week I had no idea that this was a controversial issue. 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